tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post113665739662027152..comments2024-03-13T03:27:50.582-04:00Comments on Smart Football: Has the spread offense reached its apex?Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07204245083374821812noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-73793258432837160432007-12-12T21:10:00.000-05:002007-12-12T21:10:00.000-05:00I faced a pistol team several times this year. By ...I faced a pistol team several times this year. By seasons' end they gave up on a lot of it, most of their stuff was breaking down after our matchup.<BR/><BR/>We tied 0-0 the first time in scrimmage but they got to the one, the other coach decided to try my ideas after tat and we shut them down(seven points and six points in 2 games).<BR/><BR/>Other teams started to copy our style, they lost some players and went under center as well to handle pressure and get the run game going better from the I or one back/wing t.<BR/>We got to the snap quick coming off the outside vs. pistol, one player is always designated on the QB so everyone else can play the run, it kills that zone read for the handoff. It always works vs. the spread.<BR/><BR/>The plays develop a bit slowly and our ends got up into the Qb most of the time. The more help teams bring into block on it the more people you can send.<BR/><BR/>Then a simple switch off a LB in coverage, an interior line stunt on run downs, and rolling a safety in the box or to the dominant wideout, you've basically eliminated most of their reads for given situations.<BR/><BR/>Teams see you in position over the middle early they will try getting outside, where you bring the heat from.<BR/><BR/>There's enough space from the line to handoff point that a LB can recover to starting position in about the same time and still run support, if they see past the camouflage our presnap look provides.<BR/><BR/>-Mr.MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-87309213570061296112007-01-24T09:38:00.000-05:002007-01-24T09:38:00.000-05:00Great thoughts on this blog. I feel as though I a...Great thoughts on this blog. I feel as though I am reading something academic.<br /><br />I am a high school coach, and have a few coaching friends who have spent some time in major college as well as the NFL. What I take from them is this: the NFL is not innovative. The reason: the need to run similar schemes to other teams. <br /><br />What I have heard these guys say goes something like this. "In the NFL a team can be made or broken based on the back-ups. Many - even most - have similar talent with their first eleven, but games are won or lost when looking at players 35-45 on the roster. If a team loses a player to injury, the back-up can save the day. (See the 2006 Eagles w/ McNabb and Garcia.) Now, since back-ups are so important, and because back-ups are often nomadic and may be picked up in mid-season, the schemes utilized by all teams must be similar."<br /><br />Not sure if that's true, but it makes sense to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1165133507109138012006-12-03T03:11:00.000-05:002006-12-03T03:11:00.000-05:00This is probably the most intelligent football art...This is probably the most intelligent football article i've read. I get so sick of the commentators on TV talking about stuff they seem to know about if you don't know football. I can't stand it when guys call spot screens bubble screens and tunnel screens bubble screens. Its nice to read something from someone who really knows their stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1163536079810605562006-11-14T15:27:00.000-05:002006-11-14T15:27:00.000-05:00I just happened along this site in my seach for ru...I just happened along this site in my seach for running out of the shotgun. I could not help but notice the level of compotence that is present in this post.<BR/><BR/>The real issue with the NFL game and innovative offenses are the hashes. The hashes are just to close to create the seems that are neseccary for any type of spread running game to truley be sucessful. By formation, in HS and College, you can eliminate the need to block at least four players, which allows the one on one matchup's to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1137888867306476272006-01-21T19:14:00.000-05:002006-01-21T19:14:00.000-05:00Coaches -Any idea where we can get some film of th...Coaches -<BR/><BR/>Any idea where we can get some film of the Nevada "pistol" offesne? Thanks in advance for your help. <BR/><BR/>housyfootball@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1137409861502923152006-01-16T06:11:00.000-05:002006-01-16T06:11:00.000-05:00Chris: As best I can make out, it is only program...Chris: As best I can make out, it is only programs which are in truly dire straits which will try something radically different in the NFL...witness the Oilers c. 1989 and their decision to adopt the Run and Shoot.<BR/><BR/>(Note also Buddy Ryan's reaction...or, as June Jones once put it, "A lot of the Neanderthals thought it was a Communist plot".)<BR/><BR/>The timid NFL experiments with the Fly sweep were, IMO, doomed from the start precisely because they divorced the speed of the play from its deception. Like OU in the 2001 Sugar Bowl against FSU, they ran the play once or twice, saw it stopped for little gain, and abandoned it.<BR/><BR/>...and the only thing I will say about the "greater speed in the NFL" argument is that Lombardi was told exactly the same thing in 1959 as he was installing his power sweep with the Packers...<BR/><BR/>;)Ted Seayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311385177075772697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1137208046862992972006-01-13T22:07:00.000-05:002006-01-13T22:07:00.000-05:00Chris -First time caller, long time listener. I h...Chris -<BR/>First time caller, long time listener. I have to say, you've become one of the best authorities out there, and I'm an avid reader. Your's and Jerry Campbell's sites in my opinion are the best the net has to offer right now. Keep up the good work, and hopefully I'll be able to offer up a worthy opinion on here from time to time!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1136855235558962752006-01-09T20:07:00.000-05:002006-01-09T20:07:00.000-05:00I agree and have thought about and seen this. As s...I agree and have thought about and seen this. As soon as one guy wins with it, everyone uses it, but when he first tries it, he's derided as a "gimmick guy" etc. <BR/><BR/>That being said you don't see it in D-1 either too much, and more than a few coaches have tried it there.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07204245083374821812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1136845170451670492006-01-09T17:19:00.000-05:002006-01-09T17:19:00.000-05:00Hi Chris and Ted,Chris, I'll have to side with Ted...Hi Chris and Ted,<BR/><BR/>Chris, I'll have to side with Ted on the matter of the NFL and innovation. I think the reason why there's so much spread offense in college and high school is what you referred to, but also the advance of the use of the Internet, which allows others to share ideas, as we're doing.<BR/><BR/>But that written, I've found that NFL coaches are generally less innovative than you would expect. Some ideas are immediately dismissed as "college" -- a good idea is circulated via relationships and then success via someone who was fortunate enough to get into a position to try it.Zenniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815765335808809176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1136832406936210312006-01-09T13:46:00.000-05:002006-01-09T13:46:00.000-05:00Ted, can you honestly say that the primary reason ...Ted, can you honestly say that the primary reason that the NFL doesn't use the fly sweep/fly series is because they simply don't do it well?<BR/><BR/>I mean I can agree in the sense that I haven't seen them put in the whole series, but that usually comes after some success with the sweep itself anyway. I also agree there are coaching pressures and a push for conservatism, but there is so much pressure in the NFL to win and score points that I think they pretty much are willing to do whatever works (other than the option, which again I talked about was a money/injury thing).<BR/><BR/>I think the more likely answer is that with team speed and the like the fly offense would not work as well. There is a reason that the number one running play for most of the good running teams (Broncos, Falcons, Colts, etc) was the outside zone/stretch... it's the opposite of the fly sweep. Instead of outflanking them it is stretching them out and finding lines. I know the fly can do this somewhat, but in a different way and it's primary purpose is to get outside. Don't get me wrong, it's a great O, but I think there are too many fast players in the NFL for it to be relied on too much. What I was surprised by were teams like Wyoming and the like in D-1 that really didn't do that well with it, when they put in the triple shoot and all that.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07204245083374821812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1136805528161304372006-01-09T06:18:00.000-05:002006-01-09T06:18:00.000-05:00Another great article...I'm glad you reiterated th...Another great article...I'm glad you reiterated that RRod is the true innovator of the spread, as he has been quite often overlooked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15377771.post-1136804027639663952006-01-09T05:53:00.000-05:002006-01-09T05:53:00.000-05:00Chris: Homer Smith predicted the use of the QB as ...Chris: Homer Smith predicted the use of the QB as the "11th player" on offense several years ago, and his psychic powers just keep looking stronger all the time.<BR/><BR/>Of course, he also once said "The best approach for inferior talent is the deception which any player can learn but which superior talent neglects," so I think I'll stick with the Fly series on offense for a while longer, thanks.<BR/><BR/>;)<BR/><BR/>And as for the No Fundamentals League running the Fly -- Sweep, yes; series, no. So bloody typical.<BR/><BR/>P.S.: I can live with SpamBots, but a FROG SpamBot is intolerable...Ted Seayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311385177075772697noreply@blogger.com